Chalet - TALK OUT!! - STARTED!
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Originally posted by Callan:
Normally I would give credit to the moderator when they say that. But for you, I hate to say that you dun qualify to say this as my encounters with you have not given me the impression that you are as impartial as you claim.
But since you are here, may I kindly ask you to explain why you lock this thread?
I have to clarify that Keii was quite a gentleman and he had already apologise to me via PM and the misunderstanding was resolved.
I was not doing any flaming of any sort. I was not being a troll and most importantly, I was not being offensive to anyone. I believe I conduct myself in a socially acceptable manner. As a matter of fact, I believe most people would agree with me if I were to say that what happened was uncalled for. All I was asking for was a proper apology. I was denied a proper apology, and I quote this said by you after you lock it up.
It does not take a genuis to see what you meant by "that level" in this sentence. But your explanation to me on this issue via PM seems to be rather passive and unapologetic. And since showing other people's PM on the main thread is how you normally communicate, I thought it is better I go to your "level" so that you can understand what I'm trying to say better.
By your context, it is obvious that you deduce that what I said was offensive and thus an apology was not necessary when you deny me that apology when I was asking for it. So please read through my posts in that thread again to let me know what you find so offensive that you deny me of such rights.
So since you are so impartial in your moderating, please explain the following :
1) Why was the thread lock up?
2) Should a moderator comment on the issue in this manner if he/she is so impartial?
3) Please explain the term "Basic Forum etiquette". Please explain in full what is mean by "basic Forum etiquette". Please quote the source you got this term from.
Thank you very much.
How verbose.
You know it'd be much easier if you were to pose me those questions, instead of chucking to me the whole chunk of meaningless text.
Anyway, in the capacity of a moderater, the thread was locked up when things were heating up.
As for, 'should a moderator reply in 'this' manner if he/she is impartial...?' What's 'this'? Please elucidate 'this', I find it hard to answer something so ambiguous. And since when did I claim I was being impartial? Please cite sources. Just to humour you, I, in the role of a moderator, locked that thread. I, in the role of a friend, replied to that. Completely 公�分明, I play both roles well.
As for basic forum etiquette, it must be an extremely intricate subject for you not to understand eh? It's not rocket science, let me help you along http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-forum-etiquette.htm
In any case, you can google 'forum etiquette' - it should return you enough results for your research and examination through the course of your natural life.
You should really, google wants to be your best friend.
Kind regards,
Detachedp.s. Socially acceptable? I think it's best to leave past issues buried - not to cause embarrassment to anyone
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Originally posted by Keii:
Firstly, do not drag me into this.
Secondly, do not bring past issues up, as you've mentioned in the PM.
Thirdly, which I have to clarify, it was you who pm-ed me and the apology was both ways, and it certainly wasn't any misunderstanding.
What you italicized over there, seems to be false info.
I am not in the best of moods, nor health condition to bother nor pick an argument. Just leave me out of this.
There's alot I want to say, but I just can't be fucking bothered anymore. With all that said, cheers and good luck with the outing.
Hi Keii,
Firstly, by clarifying that the misunderstanding was resolved in italics in my post, I did not want to drag you into this. Looking at the time between your post and his post, I believe it would be Detached who inform you of this post and I think a lot of us here can see that he was trying to get you involved, not me.
Secondly, I was bringing past issues up as an example of Detached "impartiality". There were no other agenda involved.
Thirdly, I Pmed you first to clarify the misunderstanding so that I can get my due apology. I do not wish to post the Pm here as that would involve someone else whom I think you would not want to involve too. So please stay out of this issue. It is strictly between me and Detached.
I wish you good health and a speedy recovery.
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Originally posted by Detached:
How verbose.
You know it'd be much easier if you were to pose me those questions, instead of chucking to me the whole chunk of meaningless text.
Anyway, in the capacity of a moderater, the thread was locked up when things were heating up.
As for, 'should a moderator reply in 'this' manner if he/she is impartial...?' What's 'this'? Please elucidate 'this', I find it hard to answer something so ambiguous. And since when did I claim I was being impartial? Please cite sources. Just to humour you, I, in the role of a moderator, locked that thread. I, in the role of a friend, replied to that. Completely 公�分明, I play both roles well.
As for basic forum etiquette, it must be an extremely intricate subject for you not to understand eh? It's not rocket science, let me help you along http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-forum-etiquette.htm
In any case, you can google 'forum etiquette' - it should return you enough results for your research and examination through the course of your natural life.
You should really, google wants to be your best friend.
Kind regards,
Detachedp.s. Socially acceptable? I think it's best to leave past issues buried - not to cause embarrassment to anyone
How verbose? This pharse is rather ironic seeing that you need so such a wordy post to reply me isn't it. It is wordy because things ain't that simple.
Well, if you as a moderator is locking it up because things are heating up, I suppose alot of other thread especially those in the speaker's corner should be lock up too, isn't it? Maybe you should start thinking of something else to say.Either you have a very short-term memory or you dun really understand the way words are used in the english language. Let me do some refreshing.
Originally posted by Detached:
Locked it because it's my duty to; locked it because it's basic forum etiquette.
Old friend or new friend, good for you. I don't play pull strings and I don't owe anyone face.The first part seems to imply to us that you did what you did because it is your duty and there was nothing personal.
The second part seems to imply that you are impartial and that you are being as impartial as you should be.
I'm trying not to be sacarstic in my replies. But it seems like you are again starting a trend. Would you like me to be sacarstic too? I can be pretty good at that though I never really try. and if you are wondering, I'm not trying yet.
Following your kind recommendation I read up on the article you pointed to. I'm wondering if you actually just googled this when I asked you or if you already knew of it's existence before I asked you to elaborate on this. I'm also wondering if you read the text within the article itself. Although I admit to having made a mistake based on the "forum etiqutte" recommended, I also see a lot of other things that other people are doing and you not punishing them the way it should be done, so are you saying that this "forum etiqutte" only applies to me and not others? I'm not trying to imply anything here, I'm only trying to get a definite reason for your behaviour. It really is ok with me for you to say that you have something against me. It is normal, really.
Last but not least, the last part about causing embarassment, you are welcome to dig out all my "socially unacceptable" behaviour and post it here. I never run away from my past, nor do I regret them. I'm just wondering how much more embarassment it will cause to others whether they are still visiting the forums or not. Sometimes it takes a mirror to show the truth to ourselves.
Maybe we should start another thread to talk about this. Not really the kind of mood set for a holiday chalet thread. And things are getting "heated up" and I dun want this thread to be lock. Wait, can you lock this thread too?
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Sounds like some court room drama, huh?
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Originally posted by cassie:
Sounds like some court room drama, huh?
yeah super like,
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i think callan have win the case. anyway can we get back to the chalet topic please?
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Originally posted by Callan:
How verbose? This pharse is rather ironic seeing that you need so such a wordy post to reply me isn't it. It is wordy because things ain't that simple.
Well, if you as a moderator is locking it up because things are heating up, I suppose alot of other thread especially those in the speaker's corner should be lock up too, isn't it? Maybe you should start thinking of something else to say.Either you have a very short-term memory or you dun really understand the way words are used in the english language. Let me do some refreshing.
The first part seems to imply to us that you did what you did because it is your duty and there was nothing personal.
The second part seems to imply that you are impartial and that you are being as impartial as you should be.
I'm trying not to be sacarstic in my replies. But it seems like you are again starting a trend. Would you like me to be sacarstic too? I can be pretty good at that though I never really try. and if you are wondering, I'm not trying yet.
Following your kind recommendation I read up on the article you pointed to. I'm wondering if you actually just googled this when I asked you or if you already knew of it's existence before I asked you to elaborate on this. I'm also wondering if you read the text within the article itself. Although I admit to having made a mistake based on the "forum etiqutte" recommended, I also see a lot of other things that other people are doing and you not punishing them the way it should be done, so are you saying that this "forum etiqutte" only applies to me and not others? I'm not trying to imply anything here, I'm only trying to get a definite reason for your behaviour. It really is ok with me for you to say that you have something against me. It is normal, really.
Last but not least, the last part about causing embarassment, you are welcome to dig out all my "socially unacceptable" behaviour and post it here. I never run away from my past, nor do I regret them. I'm just wondering how much more embarassment it will cause to others whether they are still visiting the forums or not. Sometimes it takes a mirror to show the truth to ourselves.
Maybe we should start another thread to talk about this. Not really the kind of mood set for a holiday chalet thread. And things are getting "heated up" and I dun want this thread to be lock. Wait, can you lock this thread too?
I'll just highlight some points you brought up (which to my misfortune, is easily a good half of your 'essay') and answer directly to them, I'd hate to spend too much time entertaining you.Firstly, a passionate discussion/discourse about a particular subject, be it of a political or a non-political nature, does not warrant a lock. Your freedom of speech was respected and honored, till you decided said something we deemed offensive.
So a moderator is a saint? I can say without any reservation that I still believe I haven't done the wrong thing. At the point, when your thread was locked - there were easily 2 other UOC moderators present, they'd have unlocked your thread if they felt you were mistreated.
If you've any grievances that your thread got locked by a moderator who is human and 'supposingly-failed-to-be-impartial-all-the-time', please feel free to approach Mos/Bluejuice to file a complaint. I strongly encourage you to do that. I'm confident (based on your reasoning that Mos is an old friend of yours), he'd be on your side. Wait... What impartiality is that? How dare you throw the first stone?
Start whatever you want to, be "sacarstic", be superman or whatever - I couldn't care less.
To answer your question, I already knew of its existence prior to this. And I thank you for admitting you were wrong to spam, I'm sure to the many moderators, along the likes of Fireice and Jason, it's very obvious that spamming is wrong. But common sense is not that common in today's society, and I truly forgive you for that. Please keep in mind not to spam in the future.
As for 'wrong-doers' who are still unpunished, I must say that Fireice does lock up threads and even ban accounts very often. If you've any complaints that a certain someone is not playing by the books, free free to send her a PM - I'm not the global moderator, you know?
Pertaining to airing your dirty linen in the public, sorry not interested. I've enough compassion for the people whom would be embarrassed, than to accept such a wicked and immoral invitation. As for whether or not, you do run away or regret your past - I must say repentance is rare commodity and it's not my business anyway.
Lastly, you can start any threads you want - but I'm not obliged to partake. And nope, things aren't heating up, detached means free from emotional involvement.
Good luck.
Kindest regards,
Detached -
Originally posted by rlsh07:
i think callan have win the case. anyway can we get back to the chalet topic please?
I know you more than you'd ever know me and I'm not concerned with what you think..
Good luck with the chalet..
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double post
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please get back to the chalet topic
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2 more days to go to book chalet so happy
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Originally posted by Noahtay:
2 more days to go to book chalet so happy
yeah lo 1st april then can book right? -
i'm really excited abt it though
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yeah. i need some reminders. wahahhahas
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Originally posted by corebooster:
yeah. i need some reminders. wahahhahas
why dun do like this? 1st april everyone one shot sent sms to your phone to remind you. hahaha
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wah. shd be 31st march 2355. lols!
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Originally posted by corebooster:
wah. shd be 31st march 2355. lols!
at the dot better -
outing become argument?
chill dudes.
makan satu chill pill.
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Originally posted by SBS7484P:
outing become argument?
chill dudes.
makan satu chill pill.
still outing la. come leh -
never mind.
Mod note to any parties in the arguement - A New thread would be better =)
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Originally posted by corebooster:
never mind.
Mod note to any parties in the arguement - A New thread would be better =)
already done that in private -
please dun divert to the argument. just stick with topic.
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Originally posted by Detached:
I'll just highlight some points you brought up (which to my misfortune, is easily a good half of your 'essay') and answer directly to them, I'd hate to spend too much time entertaining you.Firstly, a passionate discussion/discourse about a particular subject, be it of a political or a non-political nature, does not warrant a lock. Your freedom of speech was respected and honored, till you decided said something we deemed offensive.
So a moderator is a saint? I can say without any reservation that I still believe I haven't done the wrong thing. At the point, when your thread was locked - there were easily 2 other UOC moderators present, they'd have unlocked your thread if they felt you were mistreated.
If you've any grievances that your thread got locked by a moderator who is human and 'supposingly-failed-to-be-impartial-all-the-time', please feel free to approach Mos/Bluejuice to file a complaint. I strongly encourage you to do that. I'm confident (based on your reasoning that Mos is an old friend of yours), he'd be on your side. Wait... What impartiality is that? How dare you throw the first stone?
Start whatever you want to, be "sacarstic", be superman or whatever - I couldn't care less.
To answer your question, I already knew of its existence prior to this. And I thank you for admitting you were wrong to spam, I'm sure to the many moderators, along the likes of Fireice and Jason, it's very obvious that spamming is wrong. But common sense is not that common in today's society, and I truly forgive you for that. Please keep in mind not to spam in the future.
As for 'wrong-doers' who are still unpunished, I must say that Fireice does lock up threads and even ban accounts very often. If you've any complaints that a certain someone is not playing by the books, free free to send her a PM - I'm not the global moderator, you know?
Pertaining to airing your dirty linen in the public, sorry not interested. I've enough compassion for the people whom would be embarrassed, than to accept such a wicked and immoral invitation. As for whether or not, you do run away or regret your past - I must say repentance is rare commodity and it's not my business anyway.
Lastly, you can start any threads you want - but I'm not obliged to partake. And nope, things aren't heating up, detached means free from emotional involvement.
Good luck.
Kindest regards,
Detachedtsk tsk
relac la
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Originally posted by gigabyte14:
tsk tsk
relac la
lolI'm relaxed lah, friend..
Mai quote me liao.. stick to topic!!